we saw him meeting with business leaders. his event is planned for tomorrow. we campaign-like and he is still using the campaign actually, more than a million people responded to that survey that obama for america put out and said they're interested in volunteering. so is part of what the president is feeling the security he's feeling about getting a deal done the way he wants to get it done from we the people? >> either security or arrogance depending on your perspective. the campaign never ends. and the question and i do think it's a question is whether the sort of get the public to weigh in here is more effective than get in the back room and cut the deal. i would say one of the things that's very different about this negotiation than, say, the debt ceiling negotiation is, first of all, there has been an election as the president is kind of the first one to remind people. and number two, though, i think secretary geithner does not think going over the cliff is a good idea, i think that he, the white house, the president, are way more willing to take that ri